The end of the CX3?

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santa
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Re: The end of the CX3?

Post by santa » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:53 am

BWJ wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:39 pm
santa wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:29 pm
BWJ wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:45 pm
Where do you see 150 hk in M3 ? https://www.mazda.dk/byg-din-mazda/MAZDA3/5HB/
Here:

https://www.mazda.dk/formularer/brochurer/

Pick the 2020 price list for CX-30 and 3.
But gasoline engine is still the same, the ekstra 28 hk is from hybrid (el)
The 122 hp version is also mild hybrid. They are not full hybrid like Toyota uses.
I imagine it's still the same engine just slightly more powerfull like in the CX-3.
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Re: The end of the CX3?

Post by santa » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:11 am

I believe the reason for the dispapperance of the CX-3 is due to the new Co2 limits from EU as per January 1st 2020.
The avreage need to be no higher than 95 g/km, every gram above that will result in a £95 fine per car sold in the EU.
Mazdas cars produce way too much Co2 so I think the CX-3 would simply become to expensive to sell, until the average for Mazda is much lower.
I hope Mazda is working on pure hybrid models as we speak to bring down the avreage (the mild hybrid of the new # and CX-30 are not enough).
If you compare prices on the other models, from 2019 to 2020, they should have increased (they have here in Denmark and with our tax system they've increased alot).
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Re: The end of the CX3?

Post by Strangways » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:27 am

santa wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:11 am
I believe the reason for the dispapperance of the CX-3 is due to the new Co2 limits from EU as per January 1st 2020.
The avreage need to be no higher than 95 g/km, every gram above that will result in a £95 fine per car sold in the EU.
Mazdas cars produce way too much Co2 so I think the CX-3 would simply become to expensive to sell, until the average for Mazda is much lower.
I hope Mazda is working on pure hybrid models as we speak to bring down the avreage (the mild hybrid of the new # and CX-30 are not enough).
If you compare prices on the other models, from 2019 to 2020, they should have increased (they have here in Denmark and with our tax system they've increased alot).
I agree, it is purely down to the emissions. They are introducing an all electric MX-30 later this year and I think the hybrid they have been developing with Toyota is due at the end of next year.
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Re: The end of the CX3?

Post by santa » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:44 am

I like how Mazda is looking at the well-to-wheel impact instead of just the emissions from the car when driving, unfortunately that's not how the EU are looking at it.

I also found this news article:
https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/ ... brands-co2
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Re: The end of the CX3?

Post by Strangways » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:00 am

That's a very interesting article Santa. A good find.
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Re: The end of the CX3?

Post by steve67 » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:16 am

9 days ago
Dutch touring organisation ANWB did a head-to-head test of the CX-30 SkyActiv-G and -X. They travelled a set of mixed roads with the two cars at the same time. There was an interesting result. At the end of the drive, the onboard computer of the SkyActiv-X showed a better fuel economy than the G. However, when filling up at the petrol station, the X swallowed more fuel. Slightly bewildered by this result they repeated the same test, now with Mazda 3's. It had exactly the same result. Conclusion: the SPCCI engine is better in the (WLTP-)lab, but worse on the road. It's just another way of polishing up the fleet average CO2-emissions at the expense of the consumer. And Mazda burned lots of money on a rather redundant technology.
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Re: The end of the CX3?

Post by Sportsman » Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:28 pm

If production of the CX3 has stopped what about parts, body parts, windscreens etc. How long will these be available for?
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Re: The end of the CX3?

Post by switchback » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:19 pm

I think they have to keep them supplied for something like 7 years.
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Re: The end of the CX3?

Post by DaveG » Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:22 pm

Legal requirements aside which are debatable, parts are big business someone always buys the tooling to provide parts for a few years till demand makes it unprofitable.
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Re: The end of the CX3?

Post by steve67 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:43 pm

I see the CX3 Disappearing for good and a new CX20 launching at a later date,
so MAZDA will have the cx20, cx30, mx 50 adding the 0 to show the new generation of cars...so in time the cx5 replacement being the cx50 etc..etc.. well that would be the logical way to go..i hear they are dropping the 6 shortly aswell
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